The Winkler Family Fund

The Winkler Family Fund

Is this not just the most devistating story? A pastor's wife murders him and she has three young girls? I want to be so angry at her but I just can't because she looks like such a nice wholesome woman. I just go back to these girls and what it must be like for them to lose both of their parents. I mean, how do you cope with your mother murdering your father? Do they even know that that's what she did? This is really really sad.


There was few days I could have been her. If I owned a gun, I may have picked it up and shot more that one into my son's father's face. He enraged me when he would leave for days and days to go shoot dope and do his deal. I can understand the feelings that one has when they want their spouse Dead.

But wanting him dead and killing him is the difference between dry ice and diamonds. Think and fantasize about it all day long but Jesus, don't fucking do it! This woman has three girls. What now for them? Thank god, again, for the Grandparents. I know that feeling of being in jail and wondering what the hell was up...am I going to lose them. I was looking at no more than a year in jail and in that year I could have lost them...I also could have gotten out to fight for them. My kids would have lost me but they wouldn't have had to come to terms with me killing their father.

This story, just kind of hits my soul. I don't know why because my circumstances were so different. Mr. Winkler appears to be the perfect man. God centered, respected, a family man, a provider. What more could she want? But what was he like when no one else was around. Is it fair to think he drove her to this? I just don't know in this story but I go back to those little girls and how horrible this story is.

I actually want to donate to these girls. And I think I'm going to do it. I just want them to know that the world is kind and that it will be okay. God, I sure hope they will be okay!

I received my orders for my son....

and i'm ordered to give him supervised visits 2x a month for 2 hours.

FUCK

I will wait for him to call. I'm not calling but now I have to fucking let him have visitation.

FUCK

I will take the most detailed notes possible....and if this is just too much, I will file a fucking motion and ask for visits to be terminated.

I had to work my ass off to get my kids back...he got to jack off in bushes, climb into people's back yards, shoot dope, spend half his time in jail and rehabs and he ends up with 4 hours of vistation a month.

FUCK!

He has to have surgery

This was a phone call from 3/26

I said three words.....

Hello.....

No......

Goodbye.....


He said that he is going for shoulder surgery tomorrow and wanted to call in case he died. Whatever Dumb Fuck......then he asked if his sister mentioned anything to me and I said "No"...then he went on about disability, child support garnishment and then said that was all. I said Goodbye and hung up.

So now, what the fuck. WHY the fuck is he calling again? And from a payphone? What, he doesn't have his cell phone again? Didn't he get my letter? I wasn't expecting his call. Next time I'm going to hang up...or not even fucking answer it unless I know who's calling. Fuck that...its my phone. I can answer it whenever I want and if its him, and he keeps bothering me, then I will just do as I said and get a restraining order.

DD Saw her Daddy 3/26

Can't tell you the last time he came to see her.

I also don't know if I mentioned he moved in with his ex-girlfriend and didn't tell us or give us a phone number for months. He also didn't see or give our daughter a gift for her birthday this year.

The 26th was his birthday so he called to see her and she went for dinner!

The Reality Check Bounced~Parental Alienation at its worst~This Womans Life

The Reality Check Bounced~Parental Alienation at its worst~This Womans Life

Different circumstances, but a blog I'd like to keep up on!

I DID IT!!!!!

Two days ago I sent via certified mail a letter to the STBX in the recovery home telling him that I will not accept phone call or allow visits unless he petitions the court. I still have never recieved the final papers so I really don't even understand what was ordered after Social Services closed the case.

I just know that I feel free and I'm not going to speak to him...return his calls...or read his letters. They will be returned unopened and phone calls will go unanswered.

I did tell him how he could contact me and that is through Family Court.

Since doing that. I feel much better and peaceful about things. I have tried so many times with this guy. I've been forgiving and passive. I've done things I said I wouldn't. But at some point you have to quit spinning your wheels and stop waiting for people to come around. I have become a different person on 2 years since my kids were taken. I did it! I reunified and he could have too. He didn't and why should I continue to deal with his bullshit.

Did you know that if I failed to reunify, my children would have been adopted out and it would have been their choice as to whether me or the ex received contact. And if the answer was NO then there is nothing that we could have done. So I ask...if that's the case, then why should I continue to have to deal with his bullshit? The answer is simple.....I don't...that's what family court is for and that's where he's been referred!

DD's Dad Moves w/out Notice!

I suggested DD call her dad and his cell # was disconnected and so we call his house. The roommate answered the phone and said he wasn't there. A bit later, he calls from the on again off again girlfriend saying he moved. No notice...no nothing.

Mailing Certified Letter

I am sending my STBX a certified letter stating that he's not going to get any phone calls with our son and no visitation and that any desire to do so will have to be ordered. All phone calls will be unreturned and all mail will be sent back. I am sooo tired of dealing with his bullshit that I need to turn and walk away and never look back unless a judge tells me otherwise!

Checking himself in & Received child support

I received $97 (twice) for Child Support. This is the second contribution since his arrest in October.

STBX called today to tell me he's relapsed and going to check himself into a recovery house for 30 days. He sounded deflated...but who cares. I'm tired of his bullshit.

I told him to go get himself well and to basically leave us alone. That is IT. If he wants ANY contact with my son from this day forward, it has to be ordered. I'm not going to sit here and take his phone calls or listen to his bullshit.

The buck stops here. There is no more rope left for which he can hang himself. I have put the monopoly board away and the train has left the depot!

Ring Ring (no one answered!!!)

Lastnight he called three times and I decided that I'm not going to talk to him so I let it go to voicemail. It was hard to do that....and I'm not biologically a huge bitch, but at this point, I don't have the time or the energy to deal with his bullshit.

My life is happy and uncomplicated when he's out of it. After the conversation I had a week ago wednesday, allowing a call, and then three of my son's initiated calls went unreturned, then it proves to me that I was premature in my allowing contact.

I have told him to concentrate on himself and that is what is going to happen. My son isn't a pawn and talking with his dad has to be good for my son. Waiting for phone calls to be returned isn't good for my son.

By the third call, he was doing the "Hello hello hello" into the voicemail only its a computer kind so I can't actually hear the message!! There was a bit of iritation that we weren't at his beckon call. And we won't be anymore. Sorry but that's just the way it has to be!

I have just about all the confirmation I need!

I called my ex lastnight again to "listen" and point blank asked him why he didn't return my son's call.

This time, his excuse revolves around lost tools and having to drive out of the area to where there is no cell service. "You have (xx) Service too so you know how it is!"

Yeah, I do. I know how my phone doesn't work everywhere....but I also know that 99% of the time, a phone is w/in walking distance if the "starter on the car is broken too!" I also know if going 4 months without seeing my son, I'd wouldn't miss a call.

So, No, I don't know how it is!!!

He had this really distracted attitude. Wasn't really available on the call. Then the call cut out and he didn't call back. That was all I needed.

Moving forward:
A) I will not call him
B) I will not accept his calls
C) I will return his call ONLY when it becomes threatening to tell him to leave us alone and if he wants phone calls or visits, he will have to take me to court.
D) If harassment or threats ensue, I will get a restraining order.

That is the order of business. HE, as far as I'm concerned, is OUT OF OUR LIFE!!!